tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710785755525350704.comments2022-06-02T14:05:44.343+01:00Doogle Ltd - a specialist automated software testing companyDooglehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10840236313099150436noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710785755525350704.post-83137315380613754642013-10-25T08:33:15.195+01:002013-10-25T08:33:15.195+01:00These are great insights on software testing. Than...These are great insights on software testing. Thank you for sharing a very relevant and informative article. Zora Ferrelhttp://www.cloudstaff.com/downloads/softwareqanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710785755525350704.post-79384657741299220362013-04-29T08:21:26.584+01:002013-04-29T08:21:26.584+01:00good post.....I appreciate yor way of writing that...good post.....I appreciate yor way of writing that make the blog attractive and make reader to hold longer to your blog. <br /><a href="http://www.qualitestgroup.com/testing-service-company" rel="nofollow">testing services companies</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12695709857866884044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710785755525350704.post-69904950586451031722013-04-08T07:54:52.678+01:002013-04-08T07:54:52.678+01:00Hi Martijn - I'm glad you agree with some of w...Hi Martijn - I'm glad you agree with some of what I had to say. <br /><br />No one major event triggered the post - I just wanted to 'defend' automation in particular - I come across quite a lot of negative sentiment (and lots of positives too to be fair), but I just wanted to try and bring out some of the 'softer' benefits of the automation process as I see it. I am also aware automation is not a 'silver bullet' - it is just another arrow to our bow as testers/software engineers.Dooglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10840236313099150436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710785755525350704.post-32322384035479219192013-04-08T07:50:32.472+01:002013-04-08T07:50:32.472+01:00Thanks!Thanks!Dooglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10840236313099150436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710785755525350704.post-62924584425535575072013-04-08T07:46:53.174+01:002013-04-08T07:46:53.174+01:00Hi Phil - thanks for your comments.
I guess I a...Hi Phil - thanks for your comments. <br /><br />I guess I am making the argument that automation frees up manual testers (as one of the many benefits) - I'm surprised if others haven't been making that argument.<br /><br />I don't have sources for these statements, though I am sure I could go and find some views such as this on the web - these are just the views I pick up when I meet people during the course of my work.<br /><br />I am an automation engineer predominantly and the post was supposed to be (mainly) about proclaiming some of the benefits of automation. I was trying to emphasise the automation process as I see it and how automation engineers find bugs often using a mixture of automation and manual testing. <br /><br />I also find often automation engineers are brought in 'from outside' and often don't have a great deal of knowledge about the SUT. They are often given testcases to automate. It is up to the automation engineer to use these testcases and to us others sources such that they can write good tests - for example - talk to other testers, developers, BA's etc etc....Dooglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10840236313099150436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710785755525350704.post-14075243308201691722013-04-04T22:05:26.144+01:002013-04-04T22:05:26.144+01:00the near shoring works very well in the countries ...the near shoring works very well in the countries from Central and Eastern Europe (Ukraine, Romania, Moldova), there are a lot of near shoring companies specialized in this area, the only problem is that these companies are more oriented on profit then on leveraging the skills and quality of the engineers (who get only a small amount of the pie).tobaius riperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01953908199060320352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710785755525350704.post-74672476427755071652013-04-04T14:54:49.286+01:002013-04-04T14:54:49.286+01:00Tony, I am really curious to the context in which ...Tony, I am really curious to the context in which this post came to be. What kind of confrontation have you had that triggered this? Would you mind sharing the background with us?<br /><br />I agree with you, there should be no us and them, especially not between testers. Test automation is there to make manual testers life easier and less repetitive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710785755525350704.post-60641576405276554752013-04-04T14:41:57.381+01:002013-04-04T14:41:57.381+01:00I'm happy to find numerous useful info here in...I'm happy to find numerous useful info here in the post. I would really like to come back again right here for likewise good articles or blog posts. Thanks for sharing...<br /><a href="http://www.way2college.com/EngineeringPune.htm" rel="nofollow">top engineering colleges in pune</a> <br /><a href="http://www.way2college.com/EngineeringPune.htm" rel="nofollow">pune engineering colleges</a><br /><br /><br /><br />way2 collegehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15002354364018973597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710785755525350704.post-59366870848173584062013-04-04T13:51:42.923+01:002013-04-04T13:51:42.923+01:00I dont think anyone has been making the argument t...I dont think anyone has been making the argument that automation frees up testers to do the things they are good at - have they ?<br />I also havent heard anyone say that automation engineers are useless testers or that manual testers cant code - sources ?<br /><br />I'm not too convinced about your automation finding bugs argument where you say that automation breaks, the engineer looks into why and finds a bug. Try making that argument - "the automation will fail but it will be a false negative but when we look into it we might find a bug not connected to it"<br />Same applies to automation engineers not being familiar with the SUT - if they are not familiar with it how can they write good tests ?Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00281118161548464012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710785755525350704.post-89739669675422655682012-12-10T08:40:08.372+00:002012-12-10T08:40:08.372+00:00Thanks for taking the time to comment Phil. I thin...Thanks for taking the time to comment Phil. I think all I'm trying to say is to get some balance between the importance of process and people in software testing (and other professions as you say). All I am saying is, get the people bit right and don't impose a process on them - let them come up with their own way of working - empower them - this is motivating for people and is the way we will get the most out of them. If consultants come in and make it more complicated, I don't see this as a good thing. Now, how do we find the right people? Well that's another massive subject in its own right - it takes experience and judgement - there probably isn't a magic bullet process for that either.Dooglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10840236313099150436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710785755525350704.post-21744281114101445332012-12-07T19:42:04.765+00:002012-12-07T19:42:04.765+00:00Not sure what you're trying to say here ? Cant...Not sure what you're trying to say here ? Cant you say the same about most professions, there is a standard set of skills and the consultants and tool people come in and add buzzwords and make it complicated ?<br />Maybe it is complicated - what exactly do you mean by 'people skills', 'good communication skills' and 'attention to detail' ? How do you determine if people have them ? How do you improve them ? Or is all that 'common sense' and you know if someone has them or not ?<br /><br />Just giving you some feedback, maybe you could go into more detail as to why your itch needs scratchingPhil Kirkhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18008391232663423821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710785755525350704.post-45265315792068154932012-12-03T21:27:53.810+00:002012-12-03T21:27:53.810+00:00Hi Rosie! Not so far, but my Tweet Scheduler seem...Hi Rosie! 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Get in touch via my web site with more details about what you need to do (www.doogleonline.co.uk) and I'll see if I can help, Cheers, Tony.Dooglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10840236313099150436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710785755525350704.post-81997738509150304412012-11-23T07:55:53.372+00:002012-11-23T07:55:53.372+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Dooglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10840236313099150436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710785755525350704.post-10105407856372332542012-11-22T17:11:08.892+00:002012-11-22T17:11:08.892+00:00Interesting piece of code could you help me instal...Interesting piece of code could you help me installing some html code in my blog? i could pay you..<br /><br />LyndaLynda's Lifehttp://en.gravatar.com/lyndadeville#pic-1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710785755525350704.post-71772747278122396932012-11-14T16:30:32.985+00:002012-11-14T16:30:32.985+00:00Hope people find this useful - let me know what yo...Hope people find this useful - let me know what you think. 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